Comments on: Pay to be free… http://ivan-herman.name/2009/11/12/pay-to-be-free%e2%80%a6/ Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:00:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Monica Duke http://ivan-herman.name/2009/11/12/pay-to-be-free%e2%80%a6/#comment-5672 Monica Duke Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:50:11 +0000 http://ivan-herman.name/?p=466#comment-5672 The author-pays model is also known as the Gold route to Open Access, compared to 'Green' access where the author makes the paper (or some version of it) available somewhere else ie not through the publisher. There are debates even within the open access movements as to the merits of the differnet approaches. Regarding copyright, this page aims to answer a number of questions regarding author's rights and signing them away (or not): http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/ The author-pays model is also known as the Gold route to Open Access, compared to ‘Green’ access where the author makes the paper (or some version of it) available somewhere else ie not through the publisher. There are debates even within the open access movements as to the merits of the differnet approaches. Regarding copyright, this page aims to answer a number of questions regarding author’s rights and signing them away (or not): http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/

]]> By: florent http://ivan-herman.name/2009/11/12/pay-to-be-free%e2%80%a6/#comment-5671 florent Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:04:31 +0000 http://ivan-herman.name/?p=466#comment-5671 I don't think they are first, at least springer is doing it: http://www.springer.com/open+access/open+choice?SGWID=0-40359-0-0-0 and i guess some others too. If I recall correctly, this started a few years back when PLOS (public library of science) started http://www.plos.org/ And I agree with Pat Hayes, these publisher are just parasitic pre-web organization who know they'd disappear as soon as authors would start organizing (look who's paying and getting money in this business and compare it to who is adding value). So they are just playing inertia. I don’t think they are first, at least springer is doing it: http://www.springer.com/open+access/open+choice?SGWID=0-40359-0-0-0 and i guess some others too. If I recall correctly, this started a few years back when PLOS (public library of science) started http://www.plos.org/

And I agree with Pat Hayes, these publisher are just parasitic pre-web organization who know they’d disappear as soon as authors would start organizing (look who’s paying and getting money in this business and compare it to who is adding value). So they are just playing inertia.

]]> By: Pat Hayes http://ivan-herman.name/2009/11/12/pay-to-be-free%e2%80%a6/#comment-5669 Pat Hayes Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:23:06 +0000 http://ivan-herman.name/?p=466#comment-5669 Academic publishers are dinosaurs, and their primary function now is to prevent, rather than foster and support, the dissemination of information. Regarding copyright, the US position is that the rights to an authored article rest with the author, unless they deliberately sign them away. However, the publisher of a journal may have rights over the actual page image of the articles they publish. So all you have to do is keep a version which is formatted slightly differently and you can put that in a website, or indeed embroider it into pillowcases and sell them, and the journal publisher cannot complain. If a publisher tries to get you sign away your rights to the original article, simply refuse to give it. In my experience they usually give in if you insist. All these parasitical organizations (Springer, North-Holland, ACM, etc. ) know that if authors were ever to become organized in an effort to preserve their rights, they would be bankrupt in a matter of months. Academic publishers are dinosaurs, and their primary function now is to prevent, rather than foster and support, the dissemination of information. Regarding copyright, the US position is that the rights to an authored article rest with the author, unless they deliberately sign them away. However, the publisher of a journal may have rights over the actual page image of the articles they publish. So all you have to do is keep a version which is formatted slightly differently and you can put that in a website, or indeed embroider it into pillowcases and sell them, and the journal publisher cannot complain.

If a publisher tries to get you sign away your rights to the original article, simply refuse to give it. In my experience they usually give in if you insist. All these parasitical organizations (Springer, North-Holland, ACM, etc. ) know that if authors were ever to become organized in an effort to preserve their rights, they would be bankrupt in a matter of months.

]]> By: izuzak http://ivan-herman.name/2009/11/12/pay-to-be-free%e2%80%a6/#comment-5666 izuzak Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:27:55 +0000 http://ivan-herman.name/?p=466#comment-5666 This is... disappointingly horrible at best. $1000? wth? Are there any ways around the usual copyright restriction? E.g. removing or slightly changing/rearranging parts of a publication so that the resulting work is not considered the same as the original, thus the copyright doesn't apply to the resulting work? Obviously, I'm new to this also. This is… disappointingly horrible at best. $1000? wth?

Are there any ways around the usual copyright restriction? E.g. removing or slightly changing/rearranging parts of a publication so that the resulting work is not considered the same as the original, thus the copyright doesn’t apply to the resulting work? Obviously, I’m new to this also.

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